towards the attitudes that are sometimes so negative toward homosexual persons and their acts. today they must be worried because this pope is telling them, you know what, stop it. you know, let's focus on the gospel, focus on welcoming and loving people and let's help them through the process of whatever it is they have to deal with and that's one thing that the pope has not said in the past. and if someone tells me that what this pope is saying is not something new, they haven't been paying attention for a long time. let me tell you, he's saying many new things. he's saying many new things. >> yeah. also, he goes further. he says this, we have to find a new balance otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards losing the freshness and fragrance of the gospel. bill donahue, whichever way you try to spin that, that is a guy laying down a big marker to the catholic church and to all catholics, you've got to move with the times a bit or we won't have a church. >> let me say something. stop the hyperventilation on the