on the next spread sheet. it doesn't make mental awareness -- >> we have -- >> but the -- >> we've got system pictures i want to show you. >> no way, no way and it won't solve the problem. >> okay. you made some great points here. i want to show you pictures from adam lanza's layer, the best way to describe how he was living. a variety of violent video games, ununcommercialed movies. the aurora shooting we know he was obsessed with batman the joker, that's what he was dressed up as. there clearly was a link and i know from my twitter feed which has blown up with this that there are many, many, people who get enraged at the suggest there can be any link between gun violence in movies or video games or whatever and reality. it's just not possible. >> okay. >> how do you deal with changing people's minds? >> again, i think that one has to recognize how badly do we want to solve this problem? i can tell you and look, this is from professional experience. in the next couple years with all the murders i work on, and i work on more murders than most forensic psychiatrists, i'll find more of a link to violent video games than cocaine, illegal, add fed means. that doesn't mean they are going to be killers and yet, we have illegal drugs because we have concerns about the brooder effect. you tell me. i can tell you as a parent, i