glass ceilings by hiring the first female president of a network television news division. her name is deborah turness and she started her career across the pond working with britain's itm. let me tell you what the conventional wisdom was in the tv industry back when she was hired. people said her first, second, third, fourth priorities would be fixing the "today" show which is stuck in second place in the mornings and it does need fixing but other shows need fixing too. just two weeks ago abc's diane sawyer beat nbc's brian williams for the first time in five years. maybe that's just a fluke, but it's probably not. the newsmagazine "rock center" was recently cancelled. and nbc's sunday morning show "meet the press" has lost a lot of ground to its competitors as well. nbc used to be the dominant brand in network news. now, well, that's debatable. returning to the round table to talk about nbc's challenges and more, paul farhi, the media reporter for "the washington post" and joane hall.