rape in the sense that you know it's rape but it's not what she was looking for of where we had a very innocent victim and a very monstrous perpetrator. >> when you say innocent victim, you sound like an innocent victim. >> self-blame is a huge issue for survivors and i guess that comes out sometimes. >> i wanted to ask about a few quotes that were from you in her article. she writes this 9,000-word article. you appear in it a couple of times. she wrote, talking about frat culture, social culture, how girls who are drunk always get in, it's a good idea to act drunker than you really are. also? you have to seem very innocent and vulnerable. that's why they love the first-year girls. did she quote you accurately? >> that is something i said. i think it's definitely true that the fraternities play a significant role in sexual assault. we know that you're more likely to be sexually assaulted in