know, actually have journalists, which would be unique and refreshing. >> many cnn staffers found that to be offensive. jeff zucker found that to be quite disturbing because he's looking at that thinking, what is discovery's key shareholder going to do to cnn? but here is the thing, right, ken, malone is not going to have as much power as he used to have. in this new discovery deal, in this merged company, he will just have 1% of the shares, 1% of the vote, he will just be one member of the board along with 12 or 13 or 14 others. so should cnn anchors and reporters be concerned about john malone's views of cnn? >> well, of course. i mean, i think what malone just said, the clip you played, was comical, it's a joke, it's not real and he's wrong. if you listened to what zsalov told me in that public forum in november he disagrees with malone. malone is his business mentor