goes way, way, way up. what happened in 2009-2010? you asked me what would this have been like if we rolled back the clock. the thing that makes this change is when we go mobile. when you're a kid and you get bullied at school or you have social pressure issues, you can at least go home and you get like a little respite with that social pressure. but when instagram goes mobile, when you're surrounded in the metaverse, that's when we got the metaverse. when it becomes a reality of how your classmates see you and bully you and all that, and you live in that environment, the metaverse shows us what combats teen mental health. >> so what do you propose through the center for human technology, what are the changes you advocate for? >> well, brian, i think what