many of the people who heard this believe jay, some don't. i think this podcast served a very important public service. it's going to make sure in the future judges are more careful about how trials are conducted. they don't want to be second guessed. as far as the victims' family is concerned obviously they have a tremendous interest in learning the truth. and in learning whether or not this conviction really was against the right person. >> i worry that the information, the evidence if you will, is being unspooled for entertainment value. cliffhanger moments and so forth. two items come to mind. we were eight hours in before i learned that he had not taken the stand in his own defense. i find that to be of interest. we were ten hours in before i learned that adnon's attempt at an appeal is in part predicated on him saying he wanted to plead out in this case. so where that information wasn't shared up front from the git-go that's where i start to feel that bias has crept into the