that's what i'm talking about. people like that who are gifted who are talented. and they make things happen. but you have no idea who they are. now, come on, that's fantastic. >> bob beckel, graham is making the case, effectively, i think, that the donald is actually for the working man. address that. >> well, first of all, my brother went right and got so very wrong. but i love him very much. but he called me right after he went to that trump thing. and he was very enthusiastic about it. i'll say one thing when he gets into something, he gets into it. you know, trump is playing here. and it's smart. he's play to get working man because the disaffected, blue collar reagan democrat that now votes republican are lining up behind donald trump. the irony of it is, of course, is that trump very wealthy, and doesn't have anything -- you know, in common with these people. but he speaks out for them.