we need to move elsewhere or do these 19, do they decide, okay, they've made their point? do they come back? i don't know right now. >> they're sort of the only kevin-ish folks. >> maybe kevin. >> right. >> goes from -- >> morally kevin. >> you kind of agree with alyssa this is kind of -- there's a strategy here. >> i think there is a strategy here. i think the idea that jim jordan and others who are ideologically aligned with him did not know how this would pan out defies common sense and, you know, it's not clear to me who the alternative will be. scalise is probably the best bet because i think so much of this is personal but the irony is that kevin mccarthy has done everything that these people have asked of him over the past two years, to the point of really diminishing himself in the eyes of not only his colleagues on both sides of the aisle especially moderates on