here's the other thij. the way the current emergency program is structured, it does phase out as unemployment rates come in then people get less emergency ui. it happens state by state. so the way it's structured, it phases out over time as the economy improves. >> there is still unemployment benefits, just extended unemployment benefits we're talking about. do you agree with mark? >> i don't. i think the lengthy unemployment benefits created a real problem. we created the class of folks who are unemployed for longer than a year and it's very, very difficult to reconnect with society. the highest priority now is to develop programs for the long term unemployed who are having a really hard time even getting a job interview right now and focusing on extending the problem i think is the wrong thing to focus on. if you look at president obama's economic speech, the part i liked the best is the emphasis on addressing the long term unemployment problem. he said he was going to meet with a bunch of executives at the white house soon and announce a new program. i'm eager to see what he says there. that's something that i think --