>> but you cannot -- you can't deny that they do not like how this is being operated. >> look, i will just say it all depends on the context. n now, we had breakfast for prime minister johnson for about an hour and a half. he said he's a free trader. i'm a free trader. president trump regards himself as a free trader. but the issue is how to deal with china's unfair trading practices. which have done great damage to the united states and europe and japan. and there was widespread support for the president taking on china. now, i can't attribute or i can't account for everything these folks say, and i'm not sure what you just played is something from that meeting. it sounds to me like it came after the meeting, which is why i wanted to raise the right context. >> that's in the meeting, larry. >> well, i was in that meeting and i can tell you, the atmosphere in that meeting was