democrats, because 70% of the people this america don't want to vote for joe biden or donald trump. but no, i -- they're going to, i think, continue to try to get access to the ballot. they're going to wait and see if we're stuck with these two bad choices on the november ballot. and i think they'll make their decision in march or april. but my position has not changed. >> well, you know, larry and i have had this discussion right here several times. i continue to believe that the best friend of donald trump are third party candidates in this race. i think if you look at polling, he tends to pickup marginally because of these third party candidates. certainly, that would be the case if no labels fields a candidate. i think larry was smart to step off of their board and i would be sad because i like him as a friend to see him used in that