>> it was basically all flawed characters, but that is what was good about it. people could relate to the fact that these were not human beings, far from it. >> you could draw a line right there. that is where started to change. that paved the way for everything that came after. >> i will get married when i am 23. and i will have a husband named bug. >> a husband named bud? bud what? >> bud huxtable. >> the cosby show in the 80s normalizes the black experience. and it was super important. that felt more like my family then when i heard the myth of what the back lack family was. >> how do you expect to get into college with great like this? >> no problem. see? i'm not going to college. >> we had cosby show, family ties. and those families were saying we are all basically the same. >> was a more conservative era. they had these upper-middle-