surveillance program and what the white house will do when the laws enable the bulk collection of data expire sunday night. we're about to hear from president obama himself on the matter. i want to get right to cnn's michelle kosinski at the white house. michelle, the president warned that this law expiring could have dire consequences when it comes to national security but have they provided any evidence of this or is this just potentially the surveillance state making a claim for more power? >> reporter: right. that's the tough part. the white house has ramped up its rhetoric over national security being at risk. if this reform bill isn't passed it was already passed by the house. they're complaining that the senate has no real ration's reason not to pass this because it would protect national security in the view of the white house and also protect americans' privacy and take the collection of bulk phone data for example, out of the hands of the government and into private phone companies who collect that data for their business records anyway. the thing is though as you mentioned, the government has not been able to produce a