things to one another, which is what demonstrators say is what prompted the protests. >> because this president has created a greater racial divide in this country than existed before he became president. and because people don't believe that law enforcement is going to be supported by this president, because they don't believe that justice is applied evenly and fairly but politically, this president has created an atmosphere in this country where people feel as if they can no longer rely on the government to do things the right way, that they have to take matters into their own hands. that's exactly what i meant and i hope you understand it now. >> what do you mean he has created or made worse the racial divide? what specifically has he done? >> jake, at every turn the president has taken the side against law enforcement sdp with the lawbreakers. at every time. and what he's also done is to not bring the country together in the ways that he promised in 2008. we all had great hope, all of us, even those who didn't vote for him, i didn't in 2008, had