it's complicated, there are moving parts, some of this happened years ago under a different administration. the only part he cares you heard is joe biden and his son are corrupt. it doesn't have to be true. he doesn't have to prove it. he doesn't have to provide evidence. all he cares about is sowing those seeds of distrust and doubt in the american electorate months before an election. >> except for the fact the president is using his country and his presidency. you're the most powerful person on the planet. there is a threat you have there asking a foreign country to get involved. >> yes, this is the second time we know of that the president has attempted to engage a foreign country interfering in a u.s. election. he did it in 2016 overtly when he asked russia to find hillary clinton's emails. he's done it again in 2020,