for women's education, to make it clear to all the people in this country that there is a new direction. because the other woman fazollah, as we called her, she told me that her sister went out to buy some milk the other day and the grocer at the grocery store said you should be wearing proper covering. he never would've said that two weeks ago. but now because the taliban is in town, people adopt their posture. they change their behavior to please what they think is the sort of prevailing lord or ruler at the time. and that's the real problem here. the taliban can't just say these things in passing. they have to actively show by example that there have been fundamental changes in the way they're going to govern. and i would say from people i have spoken to, not many have a huge amount of faith that that is really going to happen. >> clarissa ward live in kabul, afghanistan, thank you for your brave reporting, as always. joining us now to discuss the