you add this component of the fact that there's -- seems to be some waning of the protection of the vaccines as well. so that's, i think, what probably will drive the surge. now we don't know how many people out there have immunity. we know that there's about 60% of the country that's been vaccinated. there's a lot of people who had covid as well and they're going to have some infection acquired immunity for a while. hard to know what that number is. that may stem the surge. but quickly, the problem always is that what is this going to do to the hospitals. if you start to see significant numbers if you get to a situation, for example, icus, if they become 75% full, that could potentially lead to down the road 12,000 excess deaths over the next couple of weeks. they get to 100% full. 80,000 excess deaths. those aren't necessarily covid deaths, pamela. those are people who are not able to as easily get care because the hospitals are so full. heart attacks, strokes, car