behavior, et cetera, if she flips, if she participates and starts naming names? >> so, jake, i'll say something that's not unique, right. where there's a will, there's a way. so i'm not ready yet to pivot from the federal prosecutions. we know that mr. epstein, right, had pilots that worked for him. we know that there were a number of people who traveled extensively with him. and so before we can see that there is no federal viable prosecution, those matters would have to be investigated. who was on the plane? when were they on the plane? who else was with them on the plane? what was their intention and purpose? where were they going? who were they with? and all of that is going to have to be looked at to jen rogers point. pivoting from that issue to particular states, yes, this is a dual type of -- we have a dual system. you can be held accountable for federal crimes and state crimes. so the nature of this specific conduct would have to be identified. the particular state with which