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before. how do you think that, public opinion, can affect these arguments? >> well, again, you spoke earlier about how having a member of your family or a friend or someone you know who's gay can affect you, well, public opinion polls can do the same thing, even to the sitting supreme court justices. more than half of the country now supports same-sex marriage, but -- so when you talk to the lawyers who are opposing olsen and boiz and against same-sex marriage, they say, you know, public opinion is shifting. nine states plus the district of columbia now allows gay marriage. that's why the supreme court ought to let it play out in the states and not shove this decision down people's throats. on the other side, david boyz and ted olsen says, if the court decides in our favor, maybe they'll think it's not such a cataclysm if they decide in our favor and that they won't be doing too much of a heavy lift here. so, you know, each side makes the argument that this could affect them positively.

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