clintons. obama himself doesn't care that much. he didn't get to be president by devoting to carrying about other people's campaigns. but i think -- but i think at some point, you know, if she's the nominee, it will kick in, that she can secure his legacy if she's the nominee do eventually get on board, there's a lot of ambivalence around obama now. >> were you surprised that she gives a speech before a trade association or something like that, those are closed doors to the media but then after she opened it up to q & a. were you a surprised about that, amy? >> it's really the first time that she addressed benghazi, said it was her biggest regret. i think that got a lot of attention. also opening it up to press. most of her paid speeches are not opened to press. >> ben, you have a quote in