how do you respond to that? >> they folded under pressure. it's not a big business for me. it's very small. it's ties and stuff. but they folded under pressure. terry lundgrund folded under pressure. he says -- who knows. they folded under pressure. that's the problem with our country. everyone folds under pressure. instead of doing the right thing, immediately, they have two people go outside with a sign and you see twro pick ets and they say oh, gee, this is pressure. pressure. people can't handle pressure. and that's what they did. they did a total fold. and that's okay with me. that's okay with me. it's a very small business. let them do what they want to do. >> this came from -- this says trump statement. i don't know if you put it out or your company put it out. it says i have decided to terminate my relationship with macys because of pressure put on them by outside sourgss. >> i was told that they said they're under pressure and i said you know what, let's folds it up.