scant legal authority for the idea the president can say, you know what? the appropriations clause doesn't bind me. so i think that's really important. number two is that was on a preliminary injunction. the court issued a preliminary injunction, said you have to turn over these records. so the trump administration is losing in the courts. the courts understand there is no king. the courts understand there's a separation of powers. the courts are standing for the rule of law, and i frankly don't think this president is going to have any more luck at the supreme court than the last two presidents that have faced this question in connection with impeachment. >> stay with me, everybody. there's another ruling today that was a win now for the president. well, i mean at least for now. but it means a very big test is going to come up, and what will the supreme court do? we'll try to break that down next. (people talking) for every dollar you spend at a small business, an average of 67 cents stays local. shop small and watch it add up. small business saturday by american express