time line with president trump having known, "the washington post" editorial board actually on september 5th came out and said we are hearing from reliable sources that there is a connection between this aid and the fact that donald trump wants these investigations in ukraine. so donald trump was already, no matter when he spoke with gordon sondland, if it's not clear if it was the 7th or the 9th. donald trump was already aware and it was already public and out there that this was something of concern to him. >> where does attorney general barr come into this? he is somebody who essentially weighed in through the justice department about the idea of handing over the complaint. >> yeah. let's not forget the legal contortions they went through to try to keep that complaint under wraps. the law says if the complaint is found to be credible and urgent, which the i.g. did find, it shall be submitted to kocongres. shall, not negotiable. unscrupulous lawyers can reach any conclusion that they want. it seems like that's what bill barr did here. surprise, surprise. guess how he came out the way of