0 defined by deeds like this, not just his television talent. it wasn't easy for simon to be here mostly because of his health. as for these bears, the executive director says it will be a few days for them to adjust to their new environment, just to be able to see the horizon, but they will recover, their instincts will kick in and these bears will get to experience to a degree, what life would be like in the wild. >> thanks for watching. i'm don lemon. have a great weekend. here's anderson. >> good evening, once again gun shots ring out at school and there's breaking news in the investigation. we'll take you to philadelphia where a second person is now in custody. also tonight president obama putting limits on nsa surveillance. the reporter who published the snowden leaks and an adviser who is applauding president obama this time. and can a household supplement bring the near dead back to life? the potential power of fish oil, omega 3. late development in the school shooting that sent two students to the hospital. jason carol's is putting the pieces together. >> we have two students in confident. a 16-year-old and a 17-year-old. the 16-year-old turned himself in just about an hour ago. that's what we're being hold by police. the 17-year-old was arrested at his home in south philadelphia, shortly after the shooting. anderson, they were able to find him by looking at surveillance tape from the gym. that is where the shooting actually took place. police tell us from looking at the tape, it's unclear if the shooting was intentional, or if it was accidental. in any case, administrators were able to look at the tape, identify the 17-year-old student. they pulled his address, dispatched police out to his house. they were able to make that arrest. what they've been unable to do at this point is find the handgun that was used in the shooting, whether it be intentional or accidental. >> so is there any indication of a motive here? >> that's a good question. still early on in the investigation. police are still trying to determine what the motive was, if any, if it was intentional, if there was a motive. but what we can say is two students were injured during the shooting, whether it be accidental or intentional. two 15-year-olds, a boy and a girl. but we're told their injuries were not life-threatening. the 15-year-old girl has already been released. the other 15-year-old boy, he's in stable condition. >> and two people arrested. was it two alleged shooters or just one handgun, do we know? >> again, they're trying to piece this all together. when i asked police about that, they said it's possible that perhaps one of the other suspects was looking at the gun, maybe they were playing with the gun. that's pure speculation from detectives at this point. two in custody at this point. police are actually looking for a third. i'm told the third suspect is also a 16-year-old male. they know exactly who he is, they know where he lives and at this point police are looking for him. >> jason, appreciate the update. now a battle in how much the government should keep tabs on us. that fight which has been going on since john adams was present, sbensified with the edward snowden leaks. since then, congressional hearings, blue ribbon panels and more. today president obama conducted a public seminar on the drawback of the surveillance state, but also the need for it. joining us with what the president said and the changes he wants to make is jim achutea. >> anderson, this was a remarkable speech. he's speaking so openly about the most secret aspects of our most secret intelligence programs. his mej was i see you, i hear you. and that she has a trust deficit both in the states and overseas. he said this really goes to the score of what it means to be america. here's how he described it today. >> when you cut through the noise, what's really at stake is how we remain true to who we are in a world that is remaking its at dizzying speed. >> he did say there are things he's not going to apologize for. he really does believe there's reason to have these programs to keep americans safer and overseas, he said that just because america has a greater capability, doesn't mean we're going to unilaterally disarm when it comes to spying overseas. he did say he's not going to spy on the leaders of our closest allies anymore. >> his critics say this is pr. how much change is he actually calling for? >> there are some real, substantial changes. one is, the nsa is going to need judicial review when it searches that massive phone metadata. that's a big change, a big step forward. but as far as that mass of metadata, it's still going to exist somewhere, and the government will still want to search that to try to find patterns to prevent terror attacks. he left open a very big question as to where that data will live. he said he doesn't want it to live in government hands, it creates the potential for abuse. but hasn't figured out where it's going to be. could be with the telephone companies, with a third party. they even raised the possibility as they develop new capabilities, maybe they won't need to access that data in the same way. that's a big open way, though. in the meantime, it's going to continue, but at least with more safe guards. >> this has been precipitated by what edward snowden did. what did the president say about him? >> no. he said he's still, in effect, considers him a criminal. but it's incredible, anderson, and we've been talking about this all day. this speech would not have happened without edward snowden, this debate, and arguably some of these changes would not have happened without edward snowden. so in a sense, victory for that programmer who bursts on to the scene last year. >> let's dig deeper from the guardian paper. the snowden leaks brought this story front and center. he's the author of the upcoming books, "no place to hide." also andy card, who is president of the creation of some of these programs, the chief of staff in the bush administration. >> glenn, do you believe the president went far enough in what he said today? >> no, not remotely. there were a few proposals that i think are positive steps, but the crux of it, why should the communications data of hundreds of millions, billions of people every day be collected and stored and have the potential to be monitored and analyzed has been left unanswered by the president. that's an activity that the nsa will continue even with all the proposals are implemented. >> mr. card, what did you make of what the president said today? a lot of these were started when you were with the bush administration. >> i think he did a courageous thing today. not sure i agree with every aspect of his assertions. but basically he protected the ability for a president to have this tool to make important decisions about protecting america. i do not see it as a potential for abuse. if you store the data in the right place, you make sure that people who have access to the data have access only for that reason of protecting the country. i don't want it to be used to spy on american citizens. i do think it's important that the president have the ability to understand the nature of communication within the terrorist networks and have that tool available so that he can prevent an attack. >> glenn, what about that? >> andy card of all people saying that there's really no reason to worry about abuse, given that the administration of which he was a part, got caught breaking the law, which the "new york times" won a pulitzer prize for disclosing, his administration was spying on the television calls of americans without the warrants required. now a federal judge appointed by president bush said it was a profound violation of the fourth amendment and even the president's own hand-picked panel said this metadata program doesn't play any sort of role at all in disrupting terrorist plots. it is domestic spying, how long we communicate, who we call, anybody who thinks that isn't spying should post on the internet every month to what they're talking to. nobody would do that. and it's time that program stopped. >> your comments are a bit naive. because it's not the way reality is really functioning. there was no interest in spying on american citizens. there was an interest in collecting communications, using an algorithm to understand what kind of communication and if there was a better way to protect america. >> but it was controversial even back with the bush administration. the surveillance measures that you -- i mean, there was this issue of you and alberto gonzalez were accused by john ashcroft number two, the director of the fbi, of trying to get the attorney general to reauthorize certain measures while he was in the hospital. he refused to do so. so even back then among republicans there was concern about the -- >> that whole story -- this program did not become declassified until december 21st of last year. so december 21st, 2013. i have not spoken about that incident at the hospital. there was no effort to get john ashcroft to sign something over his objection. soon as we learned that he was not the attorney general, we turned and left. but beyond that, i'm going to say the concerns that were raised were all addressed by the president and there was no effort to have everybody resign at the justice department. so this is something that has worked very, very well. we've learned as we've done it. it is controversial. i have more confidence in it the government doing the right thing than those who are afraid that it will do the wrong thing. >> glenn, one ever the recent rulings in a federal court, the judge said that the metadata program might have helped prevent the 9/11 attacks if they had interpreted a call from the united states to an al qaeda safe house in yemen. i knew there was a report that pushed back on the effectiveness of the whole program, but at least as far as the courts are concerned it it's unclear if these programs have helped the united states or not. you say they haven't, but this judge thinks otherwise. >> the preponderance of the evidence, the right-wing judge -- the white house commission filled with loyalists, including the deputy director of the cia said the same thing, there's no evidence that this program is necessary to stop terrorism. there was one federal judge who accepted the government's aim claim that it could have helped stop 9/11. but two leading al qaeda experts, peter bergen, an analyst at cnn, and lawrence wright, who wrote defending against al qaeda, said those claims are absurd. the 9/11 commission made clear that the u.s. government had the in its possession what it would have needed to know about the nal attack. they got a memo saying bin laden plans to attack in the united states. but they had so much data, they couldn't connect the dots. the solution was to gather more evidence, to collect data indiscriminately about billions of people around the world. that makes it harder to detect terrorist plots than if you're focused on actually terrorists. >> oh, how i wish you could sit in a seat to do the job of protecting the country. the president has a tough job. i want to help the president do his job protecting the country. the legislative branch acts for the future. judges act by reflecting on the past. the president has to deal with the reality of today. i watch presidents do that. i have confidence they can do a good job and this is a valuable tool for them to protect the country. >> the oath that the president takes when they get inaugurated is to protect the constitution of the united states. part of that is the fourth amendment, not having all of our communications data, collected, monitored and analyzed with no evidence of wrongdoing. that's the responsibility of the president according to the constitution. >> that's why i would not like to see this migrate to the domestic side. >> i got to ask you, the president would not have been making comments today had edward snowden not revealed what he revealed. do you believe snowden is a traitor? 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