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0 fired that day. for an airline pilot, 80% accuracy and landing at the right airport gets you fired that day. only the government and this at mrgs would call a sunday press event, claiming the health care website is 80% accurate and expect applause. actually we re getting a tutorial in the disastrous results of you just we can t do it. please, we re making progress, but you re always bragging on the private sector. i want to point out that today bestbuy.com was down while healthcare.gov was up. even the private sector is not perfect. we re making progress, and i m proud of it. we have bill burton, who used to work in the obama white house, and we have the former governor from maryland, bob you recall c ehrlich. and brag on your book. check out the book. but look, you talk about hope and change. it s a slogan. we re all for success. if you re for success, why won t you stand with us? we re grading on a curve? i wish we had this curve in law school. i needed the curve. listen, we have made real progress. we re moving toward, i feel lying the healthier this gets, the sicker you guys look. this is fixable. and we re fixing it. that s the bad news. this is the part that s fixable. now we ll get to the numbers, to middle america, the middle class, we ll get to a sticker shock. you mean, the middle dallas will finally stop being discriminated against? kids will be able to get health care? higher deductibles, and you loose your doctor. in the private sector, the first 90 days of a website is called beta. you expect it to i have not gotten though nobody has fired. something is in charge, i hope, but forget that. i do think that the governmentor is making an important point. my thought is this is a big story about generally nothing, because the website is fixable. the denominator, the underlying numbers, how this works in the long run is what s the problem. well, i think you re right in that the problems we re seeing right now are fixable. as we go into 2014, you are going to see a health care that s getting better and better, the program working more and more. more women having access to mammograms on medicare, not having lifetime limits on insurance, keeping your kids until they re 26. all of those things will just get better. the republican problem can t by fixed, which is that the only solution that they have offered is repeal of obama care. even if the polls that are the very worst for president obama, the american people want obama care to succeed. so the answer is to fix obama care. men don t need mammograms, by the way. that s part of the problem. i don t think anybody is offering that. it s required. now, the back of it is still not fixed, a very contentious discussion today with the news media as the government tried to explain, they sort of have it fixed, here s wee it matters. there are a substantial numb bev the people who think they have insurance, but the companies can t identify who they are. the latest was you should check with your insurance company to see whether or not you re actually insured. four out of five times i hope you re not the latest victim here. i don t want to steal your thunder. the question is, who is actually doing things to fix it. at the president, the at mrgs, democrats in congress are actually trying to fix it, not root for failure. did you ever in wrir wildest imagination think the first 60 days would be this screwed up? i think i ve been surprised by a lot of things, and the amount of noise they ve been able to make about this is, once again, quite surprising, but no, i don t think anybody went into this thinks there s going to be a lot, imperfections, people know that when you they are heart. that s the truth. it took a system that was 15 to 20% broken, uncovered or uninsured, or not not the appropriate amount of insurance, and tried to fix 100%. now we re paying the price. by the way, as ipad comes in and medicare rationing occurs and 22 new tax increases occur, and the medicare advantage cuts occurred, it s going to be the bad gift that keeps on giving onto next year. that s why all the red state democrats are scared to death. first of all, i disagree with everything you said, but everything you just said but i am concerned that some medicare part d was passed, and it wasn t working, we worked with republicans to fix it. here s what we have from your great friend erick erickson. the strategy now, he says should be the website they can t fix, but we must deny them the opportunity to fix the new law itself. let the american people see big government in all its glory and offer a repeal. in other words, hold back support, road for is that your strategy? do you sign on to erick erickson s strategy? no, i don t root for failure. that s what he s saying. help, there s an interesting term. what s the fix? regarding 300 maybe, who knows? medicaid expansion for tort reform? who knows, but there is no negotiation. one part passed this. it was you, minority, no way, we re passing our bill, we re going to reinvent the wheel here, and now the wheel is screwed up. what you re saying is 100% not true. i was in the white house and was there when republicans were called for meetings. republicans were solicited for advice. there were republican ideas source in the health care bill. someone at this table thought that was a good idea at one point. so the difference here is that it has been rare in american history that the opposing party has been so opposed to some massive change to government that they don t even show up to have a conversation. once it s put into law, all it does is root for failure. and that s why the politics in the hoppers. wait a second. having a fair amount of bipartisan i think that is a total mischaracterization. boy about the white house ever. and the fact is it s very dangerous to pass really large legislation by a very narrow margin. it didn t happen with civil rights or social security. there was consistently bipartisan ship in all the big major changes. what i m fascinated with as a conservative. you had the president s top computer guy saying we re getting up to the velocity of the we had the president says you couldn t do in government what he did in the campaign, because all those federal regulations screw up everything, and you really can t get it done right. the question i have is if getting up to and if in fact the presidential campaign could be creative and remarkably effective, but the government can t be, isn t that sort of an argument against having the government try to run health care for 315 million people. for. for starters, let me address the first point. what has change indeed washington isn t a president s interest in reaching out to the other side. it is the opposing party s 100% intrance gens to working with the president s party. when you have the senate mitch mcconnell saying the number one job was stopping the second term, you get a sense of the climate in washington. the fact that there are the way you have to solicit contracts and things like that wait, we re going to come back to this. you talked about the idea of stopping obama, him being a one-term president. in fact, president obama have been writing his obituary for years. take a look at these headlines. guess what? they re all wrong. i m going to explain to you why, next. 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