something out of the 1950s? >> that is the 1920s. that is when the term became fashionable. nobody knows what it is. it dates joe biden. that is the enthusiasm gap for someone in life public decades. walmart black friday in waterloo, iowa had bigger crowds than joe biden that is the way it is. mike: elizabeth warren dropped from 28 to 14 in the "qunnipiac poll" and 19 to 14 in the cnn poll. she says she doesn't do polls. that must be alarming to some on her team, right? >> not a good day when polls are going down. she is experiencing now damage from her health care positioning which has been shifting abit from the base. ultimately the base really needs to be committed to the individual and in love with that candidate. that is going to help ben bernanke as well, going forward. joe biden can point to health