to the chinese, but this is -- the north korean kayious -- chaos is not a good thing for the chinese. now south korea is one of great industrial power on the planet with people who live quality of life that americans and europeans live. north korea has just been resist ant to change, you would like to say, gosh, what if the regime could change? that would be a good thing but we know that current ruler will do everything that he can to stave that off. chaos in north korea is in and of itself a scary thing. trey: congressman jim himes. thank you for sharing your insight with us on a sunday night. >> thank you very much, trey. trey: still ahead,