d.a. to signal to the elected officials who are screaming for murder, to the protesters who were stand standing on subway tracks and what what not, there's just no conceivable basis for an arrest when it's till going to have to go to the grand jury other than to signal to everyone we think he's guilty. >> mark, my fellow panelists have some questions for you but, real quick, i just want to ask you briefly if something like this would have happened in a state like, i don't know, florida, or do you think this would be the same situation given the differences as we know between the way crime is handled in new york and maybe a red state like florida? >> probably not. i mean, under new york law, again, whether there is a legal justification defense is a tricky question. but putting that aside in the real world of fast-moving events on a subway where everyone in new york sees the decay that has happened in the city, has seen agitators on the subway, is afraid of violence, would this