>> yeah, look, i think there's clearly opportunity for democrats to improve their messaging, their policy making, and i think you'll see a stronger joe biden a couple years from now if he's facing re-election. what it does say is donald trump very likely could be the nominee of the republican party. and he very well might win, but it's a slim chance. this is a person who lost the popular vote twice, and so the catch-22 for republicans is, if he decides to run and gets the nomination, you're going into '24 with a losing candidate. however, if he doesn't run, here's the thing i find most intriguing, alex. there's no off ramp for donald trump that is gracious and empowers other republicans behind him. he will say he's not running because the system is rigged and nobody should participate in, and he'll actually knee cap whoever might be the potential republican nominee behind him. so look, it's a catch-22, and i suppose a catch-24 for the gop. >> catch-24. real quick to this, donald trump, as you know, is launching