i witnessed the intentional targeting about civilians and that is the most horrific thing to witness. >> you have a photograph of people carrying an elderly woman out of rubble. i want to get the context here. >> sure. this scene is apocalyptic. these are people, people still making the way out of irpin. through heavy fighting there and the last two are behind. elderly, ill, cannot walk. they're now coming out and the saddest thing because most are so old and assumed they would die in their homes and villages and brought out across the bridge. no idea where they sleep tonight. they have no idea what remains next. i think this is the tragedy of