the call with the president of ukraine and barr refused. i don't know why but one idea might be is because part of that would be barr would have to take live questions from reporters about his role in the whole ukrainian extortion scheme. quote, i would like to have the attorney general call you or your people and significantly, quote, there's a lot of talk about biden's son, that biden stop said the prosecution so whatever you can do with the prosecution that would be great? so did william barr ever follow up on that, did he ever speak about joe biden's son? as far as i know since we got the call notes william barr hasn't answered in realtime a single question from a reporter about what he was doing around that call and mentioned in that call. so why is he mentioned there? joining me now what is happening in the department of justice harry litman, and former deputy assistant attorney general in the clinton department of justice and mimi rocah, now an