different candidates were saying, i support medicare for all and leaving it ambiguous about what that mean. does it mean single payer or essentially medicare for all who want it? now that that's been clarified and delineated, you're seeing attacks on the sanders/warren vision of it from other democrats and that does seem to be pushing down support among democratic voters across a bunch of polls over the last eight months or so. >> i don't think it's just because of the issue around whether it's a single payer system or public option. i think it's also the war over public opinion in america and how american democracy works where there is a multi-million dollar propaganda campaign against medicare for all that has certain politicians like pete buttigieg and joe biden aligned with it. politico just did a story on this. they spend millions of dollars running facebook ads, tv ads, pitching stories to the media. that is the war that we're in on medicare for all. it's not just that public opinion is static. it's that public opinion is being organized and for the past four months, there's been a