>> that's what you've got to say about that? >> i do, yeah. >> what has it been like to -- if not take a step back from the news because i imagine you consume it, but just to watch the arc of the news and not be intimately involved on commenting on it? >> i think it gives you a different perspective in that you're not talking about it three times, four times, five times a day, haven't tweeted in nine or ten months. and so it's healthy to some level just to step back from all of it. i mean, part of i think living a democracy is freedom from the leader, the ubiquity of the president constantly in your face. this is not something you see in normal democracies. we ought to have freedom from our politicians. they shouldn't be the central figures in our lives, the all consuming and deeply worrying manner that they are. [ applause ] >> that's a really great point. i mean, there are many ways in which just to i think a core