Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20220115 01:38

MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes January 15, 2022 01:38:00

language of the statute. >> yeah, and part of it, too, i mean, you know, in sort of thinking about this crime, right, i mean, plotting to overthrow -- there are crimes you could, you know, attempt to steal something from someone and fail or you could succeed. you can attempt to -- attempted homicide and fail or succeed. in the case of overthrowing the u.s. government, like, you're only going to be charging people who failed, i think, sort of definitionally. it's not like the crime could ever have come to fruition. so -- and that -- i mean, so the closest we've come to fruition, you know, certainly in my lifetime and, arguably, since the firing of the canons at fort sumpter of someone attempting to use force to stop the government, you know, over throw the u.s. government, is january 6th, dan. >> that's right. and there is no crime, as an example, of seditious. it is only seditious conspiracy for the reasons that you pointed out. so if anyone says, oh, when they

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