state, rain? it's not the case ever before that when someone before winds the other people are like -- they decide to send in their own certificates just in case if maybe they're appeals -- >> yeah. exactly. this is unprecedented and i think the point we're trying to show the committee with this additional evidence is that nothing happened and isolation. everything was connected from the moment unofficial results were released 24 hours after the polls close. subsequently almost every day after that there were attempts to harm the full certification of the results and interfering with that certification at the local level and state level. and when we met at the capitol -- the state capital on december 14th, individuals showed up claiming they should be lightened because they were the actual actual electors. all of these things happening at the same time trump and his attorneys are coming to michigan talking to legislators. again at the time, we were just trying to protect the will of the people and make sure we got those actual certificates --