schools. and our populations in general. the idea of forbidding mandates for masks or vaccines is nuts. i don't know how else to put it. i think enough already. i think the federal government needs to get a lot stronger what it is recommending and we need to push back against the governor ins in the seven states who have some crazy ideas founded on politics, conspiracy theories and other things that have no business playing out in protecting the health and safety for our children. >> do you think we're at the pount where contact tracing, excuse me, should be routine practices in all schools across this country? >> yes. i think contact tracing should be in play although it's not as useful now as it would have been in the very beginning of the pandemic. i think the priority should be on masking in schools and especially on getting everyone who is eligible vaccinated.