consideration, but suppose we were considering that question now for the first time. i'm sure you know the arguments about the viability line as well as i do, probably better than i do. what would you say in defense of that line? what would you say to the argument that has been made many times by people who are pro choice and pro life that the line really doesn't make any sense? that it is as justice blackman himself described it, arbitrary. if a woman wants to be free of the burdens of pregnancy, that interest does not disappear the moment the viability line is crossed. isn't that right? >> no, your honor. and if i may make a few points to answer your question. first, i think the state views viability as arbitrary, because it discounts the woman's interest. >> but does a woman -- upon reaching the point of viability,