why did it look like the fire had been burning for a long time? >> it was -- the whole side of the mountain. it was a big mountain. it had to have been burnin'an hour or two. >> yeah, probably. i would think. closer to two. >> curiosities. why would he bring her up here to the very top of the mountain to go camping it's an hour's drive over a rutted track to the other campers farther down the hill. according to cathy's family she didn't like camping at all. so why would he bring her to the most remote possible place? >> no one camps up there. unless you want to be really secluded. >> and that, said cathy's brother, was not something she would have wanted. did she like to go camping? >> no. she'd rather be in a hotel -- any day over a tent, knowin'my sister. >> puzzled cathy's friends too. >> i was like, "camping? " >> cathy was not a camper. >> and there was this -- >> i recall him -- at some point, mr. winkler