the one that went into effect in september was a 15% tariff. now the american family will pay anything from 460 to $970 more a year in buying staple products. that hurts the economy and doesn't allow us to go out and take vacations or put away money for saving or pay off student debt. when the president goes out and brags about how we've got billions of dollars coming in from tariffs. no. that's a shadow tax on americans. and the republican party has always been anti-tariff until now. >> is china and the tariffs on china an example of what we could be looking at? >> yeah. the steel tariffs are an example what have we're looking at, and what he was planning on doing to brazil and argentina. the trump administration is now intending to spread this china tariff situation all over the world. so he doesn't -- trump really doesn't have anyone in the white house right now who is telling him to calm down. there's no gary cohn, there's no