treated differently. they are weapons of war that should only be on a battlefield. i mean 22 people killed in under three minutes in el paso, texas, when the second amendment was ratified and adopted it took you three minutes to reload your musket. i don't know that the founding fathers could have envisioned the kind of carnage that could be produced with one of these weapons. and no civilian should own them. and i hope you all acknowledge this, every candidate on that stage is for an assault weapons ban, so if the logic is that those weapons are too dangerous to sell and then you acknowledge that there are 16 million of them out there, you have to do something about the number of weapons that are out there. my plan is the clearest, it is the boldest, and to your point it is politically difficult. it may not poll well. it may not be politically convenient, but it's important if we're going to save the lives of our fellow americans. >> andrea mitchell. >> congressman, let me ask you about the age issue, which came up last night, and there was a clear generational divide