of when i here people talking about her is authoritarian. which is so weird. >> what? >> no, look, i don't think of her that way, that's the word that people say. >> the first race she ran for was san francisco d.a. you know what i read into that? i read into that somebody who loves the law. i don't think she has thought of herself as a politician in the same way that some of these other people woke up every day like you know and said what do i do to become president of the united states. i wonder if she just never had the same aspiration. >> i think she couldn't decide to what lane ro run in and barack obama was skill enough to run in several lams at the same time she didn't have that kind of messaging experience. >> that's a hard coalition to try to read about. >> she's most at home as a prosecutor and as a public explainer. i thought she's very good at it. she never was totally consistent