'em up. >> and michael bloomberg doesn't think donald trump has the appetite for him? >> it's amazing to me that after 2016, anyone feels comfortable confidently prognosticating how presidential elections are going to go. i think the one thing we know for sure is nobody has any idea how the 2020 general election is going to play out because it's really, really hard to poll the way voters behave in the trump era. the one piece of evidence we do have on voter behavior, the 2018 midterms is a repudiation of trump-style politics. a big part of the reason, and especially if you talk to these moderate freshmen democrats who are very much in the crosshairs, what they will say is a big part of the reason the house flipped was because they were able to reach out to republican female voters. to independent voters. to people who had only voted for the right for their whole lives but were frustrated not necessarily because of policy stuff from trump. but because they had to mute the tv when the president came on. >> no. the whole role model issue with this president and the fact that the hardest thing -- it is so difficult to be a parent in --