in the trump climate. with the president doing what he's doing. so joe biden was asked today whether he had any regrets about his confrontation. he did have one regret. take a listen. >> are you concerned that you're going to get more questions like the one that you got yesterday from voters on the trail? >> well, we've got over 2,000 people show up on this bus trip. no one's done it except that fellow. and so sure. look. i think that -- that it's gonna be part of what is the -- is the opposition's case. look. trump's already spending 12 million bucks to try to make the same message. send the same message. and there's nothing to the message. but any rate, i probably shouldn't have challenged him to pushups. >> look. it was interesting. your former pal, working pal, brendan buck sat in that same chair yesterday and said this was a great moment for joe biden. do you think it was? a moment that biden in particular needed? >> well, i mean, we're talking