rittenhouse did. he created this problem, and then proceeded to threaten people to get out. typically you can't claim self-defense in a situation where you've provoked the incident. but the defense did a good enough job of convincing jurors this was a unanimous verdict on all counts. this jury was thoroughly convinced. >> danny, i would -- same question to you. was this an easy defense? poor prosecution? friendly judge? tough? what's your sense? >> there is no such thing as an easy defense. it wasn't that it was a poor prosecution but poor facts for the prosecution. in wisconsin the prosecution had to disprove self-defense. all the elements, or any one of them beyond a reasonable doubt in addition to proving their case. at the last minute, they got the provocation instruction. that could completely up-end the