first responders, carrying an elderly woman out of rubble. i want to put that photograph up. i wonder if you could give us some context. >> sure. this scene is apocalyptic. these are people -- people are still making their way out of irpin. there's heavy fighting there, and the last two have remained behind, the elderly, the ill, people who cannot walk. those are the ones who are coming out today, who have been coming out the last few days. it is the saddest thing, because most of them are sold, they assume they would die in their homes or in their villages. here they are being brought out, carried out, they have no idea where they're going to sleep, they have no idea what's remains next. this is the tragedy of war. >> lindsey, there's tragedy in every conflict and war that you've covered. you even been held by