substantial subplot to overthrow the 2020 presidential election is fully investigated. so we really just learned about the subplot campaign to seize election machinery, which is a real banana republican stuff. the focused campaign against mike pence is something where we have a lot of information but not complete information, and we are hoping to complete that, so i mean, you're right that there, you know, there's no exact finish line. but, we do need to investigate. >> the panel has also learned more about a phone call between ohio republican congressman jim jordan, and donald trump on january 6th. a source tells nbc news that documents turned over to investigators by the national archives show the two men spoke for ten minutes on the morning of that day. back in july, jordan was big, elusive, when asked if he had spoken to trump the day of the