her direct answer today, at least according to her is no. why wasn't she ready to give an answer like that until now? >> well, you know, she's a wong and she wanted to green eye shade the whole thing and make sure her numbers add up without a middle class tax hike. the question is whether this comes off as believable to not only members of public but to the public. she would really have to bring along a huge public wave of support for this type of plan, for it to have any chance at all of getting anywhere if she were elected president. it's just people are going to have a lot of skepticism about this. they're not going to believe something of this magnitude could be accomplished without higher costs borne by everybody. she made an effort today to say that wasn't the case. it depends whether people will belief that. >> beth fouhy out there in iowa where all the action is right now and jonathan allen, thank you for joining us.