have to understand what they e said to each other and how they did what they did. >> right.he and it's sort of been a waiting game for many in washington, d.c. to see if trump ends up throwing rudy under the bus. there is this small area of distance between rudy and the president as you read through these transcripts in which the president continues to deflect t to rudy, continues to advise o people coming to him to speak directly to rudy as if to give him some sort of plausible deniability if and when this ib thing blew up and became public. now will he use that plausible deniability and say i didn't know what was going on, it was all rudy, if there was a s a nefarious quid pro quo it's his fault and if you have any an frustration or want to take anything out on him politically do it but leave me out of this. i'm curious if trump ends up going that route. and honestly i'm curious that he hasn't done it so far already.ly maybe it's because rudy simply knows too much. and rudy himself has steadfastl insisted that he was operating at the behest of his client, tho president of the united states,h and did nothing wrong.en but of course, as you've now documented in just this short ve
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