gradual thing. it could be that the fact of these weeks of public testimony and people listening to them have sort of an effect of accretion on public opinion. we just -- we just don't know. this is a different world from the world during watergate. you know, communications is different. partisanship, i mean things were pretty partisan back then, but they're awfully partisan now. you know, the tribes are in their corners. but i have a feeling that there will be surprises, and obviously i don't know what those surprises are. >> a.b., there's public opinion, and there's republican opinion. what will it take to change the latter, and while you're at it, run through for me something i watched you do brilliantly at 4:00 eastern time this afternoon. big name, republicans who